Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. I suspect Bethesda want to leave the exact reasons for Dwemer Disappearance (and thus Arniel's disappearance) a mystery, because it's just that, a fantastic mystery. Keening cuts up the divine into pieces that are sundered from one another. Was he Transmogrified? I'm Blackfyre and I'd like to talk about...Arniel Gane. Arniel Gane and his "endeavors" are another example of this. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. The Dragonborn will witness this unexpected occurrence, when given the spell to summon the apparition, which is called Summon Arniel's Shade. I say partially as he doesn't really seem to have much intelligence after the fact. Also upgrades Arniel\\'s abilities. Perhaps this lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. Filled soul gems can be found in dwemer automatons. I think of it exactly like the Numidium's activation by the dwemer, but on a significantly reduced scale. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Hmm, interesting, as well as somewhat sinister. Follow the walkways to the other side. The Dwemer disappeared, yet so did Arniel Gane. Since we barely know what the Heart of Lorkhan is, we can't draw too many conclusions about Keening. So after Arniel Gane disappears at the end of the Arniel's endeavor quest, what happens to him? But without the proper training, proper understanding, proper tools and proper energy sources, the end results were unpredictable. I usually wouldn't care but it will not leave my quest diary. If you do the quest for Arniel Gane at the College of Winterhold he will help you explain it better. Find Arniel Gane [edit | edit source] Head through the doorway that is directly in front and follow the long winding corridor to another large cavern. So I figured that since the deeper mysteries of Aetherius are not my area of expertise, and probably my weakness in the Lore, I'd reach out to my fellow scholars and see if they could help me with their opinions. Basically, he recreated the Dwemer Dissapearance, sadly with the 'malfunction' (which I assume to be a fail safe designed to stop people ascending to god hood like the Tribunal) which pretty much killed him. Therefore, you may prefer to instead keep the rings with their +20 In there you can see many ash piles which suggests that their bodies remained where they were (though turned to ash). Perhaps his soul was bound to the Dragonborn, but that just means that his 'soulskin' remains in the dream, whereas he is departed. This lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. It results with Arniel becoming a ghost himself, but I believe that he somewhat succeeded in his experiment. Gane used only one. It is likely that this... 'impurity' rendered him a 'unique' race, relative to that of the Dwemer's genetic homogeneity. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. Is Dovahkiin divine? Only souls you sacrifice to the Ideal Masters go there. Arniel's goal is to recreate the event that caused the Dwemer to disappear. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. he hasn't taken the cogs. I thought it wasn't necessarily the DB who completes the side quests, though? 3- In Tribunal there is a dwemer ruin that has been untouched for millennia. Even the other convectors won't heat up now. Without a Numidium or other target, much less the proper Tonal Architecture, he had no hope of recreating the Dwemeri Extinction. Isn't the Dragonborn a part of Akatosh, like the rest of the dragons? Dead. It was laughably inaccurate. ), Arniel succeeded in binding himself to the nearest divine being - the Dragonborn. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. I tried dropping them on the ground infront of him and nothing happened still. The power of the blade you receive suggests he's dead, but he talks about solving the fate of the Dwemer, so maybe he's been sent to the dimension they were sent to? Arniel is located in the first room on the right on the second floor of the Hall of Attainment. level 2 At any point after finding the Ancient Amulet, you can return to Arniel Gane and give him any Enchanted Rings that you have found. Arniel Gane's mission bug in Skyrim PS3?? Honestly, Arniel Gane disappeared because that's what happened to the Dwemer so … ooohhh… mystery. Summon Arniel's Shade is a Conjuration spell that summons the Shade of Arniel Gane to aid you in combat. Arniel's Endeavor is an optional quest from the College of Winterhold. Are there any other references hinting that Keening was broken? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This mod replaces the Conjur Spell Summon Arniel Shade, and moves it into the powers section. Arniel's Endeavor Part I. The surprising thing is that anything happened at all. You get the dagger on the last part of quest Arniel's Endeavor but you have to deliver it to Arniel Gane at the end of a quest. This may not have a real answer, but any reasonable speculation would be appreciated. Where did he go? But when I cast the flame spell on the second convector (more than 10 seconds) nothing happened. Hmm. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. They were trying to build there own mechanical God, by doing so they accidentally sent themselves to a different dimension. I explained why a long time ago, so if you would just let me find a quote... Arniel Gane was hopelessly out of his depth. Twin Souls only works if Arniel's Shade is summoned first. For the shade's stats, see its individual page. The Nerevarine reports this back to the Archmage of the Mages Guild where nobody does anything useful with that info until Skyrim, when Arniel Gane attempts and presumably fails to replicate Kagrenac's actions with a depowered Keening. Pick 'em up anywhere and bring them back. Not his soul, not his mind and not his spirit. Both disappeared. Hmm. Arniel Gane had one of these tools, which, given that he didn't die by simply holding it without Wraithguard, was clearly broken. They are trapped in an area very similar to what the Catholic call "Purgatory" and they lost their physical form. At all. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. 1- Arniel turned a dragon into an ash pile, and i got no soul because of that. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. At any rate, everyone else seems to have it mostly covered - Arniel partially succeeded in replicating the Dwemer removal. Not all the dwemer are dead though, there is that one that has corpus and is still "alive". Being a breton - Arniel had the mixed blood of Men and Mer. Arniel Gane asks you first to find 10 Dwarven (Dwemer) cogs. Really? If I were a god I would've killed him simply for his impetuousness. I've just reached the end of his quest. Summoner, Atromancy and Necromancy have no effect. Just a few details/bug reports. ), I won't assume a necromancer works the IMs. I personally think Keening is exactly what it is: a cutter that cuts deep. 4- The telepathic link appears to hold no impact on the disappearance beyond Kargenac using the link to take all dwemer with him. If you do "Arniel's Endeavor" it's a College of Winterhold side quest in Skyrim, Bethesda shows you what happened to the dwarves. The quest marker is right on his head too. Keening was not developed specifically to bind a soul to Numidium - well maybe it was - but its properly described purpose was to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan with the other tools. So the theory goes that when Arniel hit the thing with the other thing, his soul leapt to the closest divine thing, which happened to be The Last Dragonborn, being a shard of Aka (and also a Shezzarine in some theories). He is a Breton mage, a member of the College of Winterhold who leads an expedition to the tomb of Saarthal. Cookies help us deliver our Services. At the very least, the black soul gems you can create in Cyrodiil probably give their souls to the God of Worms since it's his magic and celestial event that lets you create them. At the second pillar you will reach an apparent dead end, but the ramp down is on the right hand side, hidden in darkness if your settings are too dark. Arniel Gane is a non playable character that appears in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Arniel's Endeavor. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. Transmogrification is the total change of form, generally used to denote transformation from human to non-human, typically animal but generally "grotesque". Arniel's understanding was lacking. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Arniel Gane has stolen Wuuthrad! The Fate of Arniel Gane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:05 pm . I never thought so. He is a ghost. ". He was Soul Trapped, but Bethesda was too lazy to add him in the Soul Cairn. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. With Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation (no sunder, no actual heart, etc. I brought 10 dwemer cogs to Arniel Gane in my inventory. He disappears into the soul gem, right? 2- He is kinda OP, the ice knockback effect permastunned a dragon (the same dragon he turned into an ash pile). That's why we can now summon his ghost. Arniel not having anyone to link to probably has no effect on whether what happened to him is different from the dwemer or not. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. Anyway, I tried fast traveling a few times, walking in and out of inns and cities and I also restarted my console. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. When the Dwemer disappeared, it was on account of Kagrenac using all three tools on the heart. He leads an excavation at the tomb of Saarthal and will hope to experiment with Kagrenac's tools, the latter of which he is highly secretive of. Arniel goes to Soul Cairn, considering it involves a Soul Gem. He knew exactly WHAT the dwemer did, just didn't understand the (meta)physics behind the whole process. Thanks for your in depth reply. A shade, a shadow of what was once Arniel Gane. The warped soul gem that was struck was his medium. If he doesn't, there are some known bugs with the scene: Doesn't that mean that he is bound to Akatosh as well? To answer what happened with the Dwemer you need a why, not just a what. have a fist on the other hand) It then worked for me. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. Two tools, of such immense and catastrophic power that they require a third, protective one to even be touched, designed by an ancient genius to manipulate the heart of a dead god which anchors the spatial foundations of reality, through a fusion of science, magic and acoustics that no living mortal can rightfully claim to comprehend. His midium. I don't know what either of those words mean, but they seemed to fit. Allow me a moment to just describe Sunder and Keening. I'm not sure if he's a familiar that can be pulled from his respective afterlife, a psychic imprint the LDB can call that isn't really Gane, or if Gane literally lives inside of the LDB and he pushes him out when he's summoned. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. What do I have to do to make him take the cogs? I believe that what Arniel recreated was a Dwemer secret method used to power their creations. 200: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Arniel Gane's experiment in Skyrim was a half-assed attempt at recreating what Tiber Septim did to activate Numidium, not what Kagrenac did with the Heart of Lorkhan. Press J to jump to the feed. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Notes . That tells us that his experiment didn't quite go how the original did. His body was annihilated and he had his soul bound to the LDB since he's basically a living soul gem. Praise Reman and all his little woodland creatures! Still, I suppose you could say that Arniel cut himself out of the Dragonborn's dragon break. He didn't use Wraithguard to keep him safe from Keening, and the Warped Soul Gem is not Heart of Lorkhan. That it would go catastrophically wrong was the second most likely outcome - the most likely being that nothing would happen. He appears to have succeeded in unmaking himself and, rather than loosing his spirit to Oblivion, Aetherius or any other plane, he appears to have partially bound it to the Dragonborn. While its never explicitly revealed/confirmed what exactly happened, they disappeared after Kagrenac used his tools on the Heart of Lorkhan. His goal is to use it in an experiment to … We basically know the outcome, and the reason, but the methodology (metaphysically) is so speculative. Summon Arniel's Shade, for 60 secs; Perks . Serana was wrong. As in, he was teleported to that realm of the void which has previously been named plot device. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Gem duplicated in the second convector, leave one in the convector and go to the third convector (even though it says Return the gem to Arniel, remember you've only used two.) Discombobulated? Press J to jump to the feed. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. To leave it as a matter of Keening as this soul-binding thing without further implication is not going to cut it. Arniel Gane, who is researching what happened to the Dwemer, had Keening brought to Skyrim during the quest Arniel's Endeavor. Whenever I talk to him he just says I DONT WANNA LOSE MY REASERCH WE GOTTA SAVE THE COLLEGE. If summoned second, it will replace the first summon. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So what happened to the Dwemer? Wacking a soulgem with Keening and then...The ending of it was a bit of a conundrum, eh? Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. It is not, by any means whatsoever, an accurate recreation of the Dwemer's experiments with the HoL. He takes all the rings from you, but he is more concerned with the mess you have made than with the new artifacts, and does not give you any reward (not even a boost to his disposition). Also, at the end of that quest I think he becomes summonable, right? Ensure Arniel's spell is the only spell equipped (i.e. The Dwarves, like Arniel Gane, are trapped in the place that exists between Oblivion/Aetheruis and Nirn. They found piles of ash next to weapons, in Beds, and everywhere a dwemer would have been standing in the ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold. He should immediately use the dagger for some magic and he will "explode," dropping the dagger on the floor. Unless their thralls look like Wrathmen (? He was missing 2 items, one was barely working, he was using a warped soul gem, he lacks the Dwemer genius and tonal architecture knowledge. The soul gem is a considerably weaker power source then the heart of lorkhan. 200: Finishes quest: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Or maybe he cut himself out of the dream. 2- Not all dwemer are gone, Yagram still remains as he was in another realm at the time and not affected by it. Arniel's Shade is a ghost of the College of Winterhold mage Arniel Gane, who was destroyed or possibly transported to another plane at the conclusion of the quest " Arniel's Endeavor." His soul is bound to us, rather than being recycled in the Dreamsleeve or given to Herma Mora. Anyone have any idea what happened to him? Someone named Arniel Gane even tried to recreate the disappearance using Kagrenac's tools, and he himself disappeared. 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